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The scenes you are watching
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are from the highly-rated
action-adventure shows Mustang,
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Chopper Squad and Highway Guys.
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But now, in the
"life imitates art"
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and "truth is stranger
than fiction" categories,
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the producer of these
exciting shows, Paul J. Bartel,
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stands trial for the
murder of the man
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whose network they're on.
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This man, Greg Titleman,
network programming chief,
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who was found
stabbed in the back
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at this exclusive Bedford hotel.
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Hello, everybody.
I'm Terry McNeil.
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And I'm Doug August,
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welcoming you to
Hollywood Today,
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where this evening's
entire hour will be devoted
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to an event that has shaken
the Hollywood community
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like no other before it.
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Greg wasn't the cold-hearted,
impersonal executive
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everyone thought him to be.
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You know, the kind who
did everything on the phone.
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To the contrary, he thrived
on the personal touch.
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For instance, when he
canceled my first series,
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he personally told his
assistant to call me.
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An actress remembers that
kind of thoughtfulness, believe me.
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Before Greg took over the
network a few years ago,
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things were getting so
confused that, uh, executives
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were going around stabbing
each other in the front.
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Well, he changed that
all around, didn't he?
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And now, after weeks of
evidence and argument,
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the case of the People versus
Greg's accused murderer,
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Paul J. Bartel, has
gone to the jury.
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Why don't we tell our viewers
how and where it all began?
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Greg Titleman came
into Los Angeles
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the first weekend in
April for some meetings
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at a Los Angeles hotel.
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And that's when Paul J.
Bartel had a meeting with him?
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Yeah, just around
2 in the afternoon,
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Paul J. Bartel
came to the hotel.
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Greg?
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Greg?
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Greg?
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Greg?
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Hello, operator. Uh, yes.
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I want you to connect
me with the police.
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Well, you say you
came to the hotel
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for a meeting with
the deceased at 2:00.
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Mm-hm. It's just
somewhere around there.
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I might've been a little early.
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And then?
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I saw him, uh, Greg,
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on the floor with a
knife wound in his back.
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And why are you so
sure it was a knife wound?
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How do you know it
wasn't a bullet wound?
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Lieutenant, I've been producing
TV cop shows for years.
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I can tell the difference
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between a knife and a
gunshot wound. This was a...
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A-a gaping puncture...
All right, all right, all right.
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All right, yeah.
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All right, so you say you
were going to have a meeting
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with Mr. Titleman.
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What about?
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Business.
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Two of you were friends?
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Absolutely. We've known
each other for years.
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Hey, lieutenant.
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Excuse me.
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Mr. Bartel, I'm gonna have
to ask you to come with us.
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Why? What's goin' on?
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It seems that one of my
officers found what appears to be
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the missing murder weapon.
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So?
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Well, it seems it was found
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in the glove
compartment of your car.
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So now we have a murder
and a prime suspect.
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And now let's take a
look at Benjamin Matlock,
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the attorney who handled
the case for the defense.
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Terry?
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For the last 30 years,
Ben Matlock has lived
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and practiced law
in Atlanta, Georgia,
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where he's well-known
for both his high prices
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and the high
percentage of clients
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he successfully defends.
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Ben Matlock's office.
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♪ Your mouth is
like A fireplace ♪
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♪ With all the ashes out ♪
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♪ Well, with all the
ashes out Boys ♪
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Just a minute.
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♪ Your mouth is
like A fireplace ♪
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Ben?
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♪ Well, whoa, mule, whoa ♪
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Ben?
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♪ Whoa, mule, I say ♪
Ben!
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What?
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It's Paul J. Bartel.
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Who's that?
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Big TV producer.
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Produces Chopper Squad,
Highway Guys, Mustang.
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Oh.
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Lot of good-looking
women in Mustang.
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Wanna take it?
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Hello?
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Yes, sir.
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Oh, why, thank you.
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Well, uh, th-that...
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Yes.
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Well?
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How about getting us a couple
of airplane tickets to Hollywood?
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♪ Well, whoa, mule,
whoa Whoa, mule, I say ♪
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♪ Grab your hat, Miss Lucy Jane
And hold on through the shame ♪
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McNEIL: And so Ben Matlock
and his associate, Michelle Thomas,
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jetted out to Los Angeles
to meet with Paul J. Bartel.
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Stop me if I'm wrong,
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but isn't your making money
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dependent on people like, uh,
Greg Titleman buying your shows?
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Uh, in network TV, there
are just three shops to sell to.
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Uh, Greg runs... Uh,
ran the number one shop.
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If there were a falling-out
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and Greg Titleman had
canceled, say, Mustang,
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well, then millions of dollars
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would have been
at stake, wouldn't it?
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Yeah, but as you can see,
I have lots of other shows.
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But it's common knowledge
that none of them have
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lost as much money as Mustang
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and that Greg Titleman
was ready to cancel it.
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Mustang is a very
expensive show,
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with a star who gets
six figures an episode
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and insists it be
shot in Hawaii.
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Um, the way I understand it,
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if, uh, Greg Titleman had kept
Mustang on for another year,
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then your losses
would've turned into profits.
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Mm-hm. We would've
had enough episodes
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to make a favorable
syndication deal work.
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Greg was my friend.
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I didn't kill him.
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Why didn't you call
the police from his room
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when you first
discovered his body?
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Ah, I've produced
enough TV shows to know
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you're not supposed to touch
anything, including the phone.
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Hm.
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What about the knife?
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I never saw the knife.
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The prosecution is gonna contend
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that the reason you didn't
use the phone in his room
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is because you wanted to
hide the knife in your car first.
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You don't seriously
believe that, do you?
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No, that'd be pretty dumb,
but they will contend that.
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You wait and see.
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Well, is there anything
else you need to know?
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Not right now.
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I was always intimidated
by Greg Titleman.
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Uh, he never smiled
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and I always called
him Mr. Titleman.
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Anyway, there was this
meeting in his office one day
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and I was so scared
I wouldn't go in
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without my agent and my lawyer.
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Anyway, when we got inside,
he saw how intimidated I was,
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and he said, "Son, as long as
you're a member of my network,
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I want you to think of me
as your second father."
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Well, from that
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I had trouble distinguishing
between him and my real father.
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Do you mean you went
to him with your problems?
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Oh, well, unfortunately, he died
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before I got a
chance to do that.
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What I mean is, uh, now
when I go talk to my real father,
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I can't go without my
agent and my lawyer.
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How powerful was Greg Titleman?
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Well, I don't know exactly,
but there's this rumor
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that just after his death,
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Highway to Heaven was
picked up for two more seasons.
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And the network announced
that they were gonna do
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a miniseries of the Creation
with the original cast.
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It was just a joke.
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Sort of.
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Okay. So Ben Matlock
figured he had to find the person
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who placed the knife
in Paul J. Bartel's car.
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That was the idea, yes.
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So how did he proceed?
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Well, the first thing
he needed to know
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was who knew Greg was in town.
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So, as they say in show biz,
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he made the rounds.
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Jerry, don't try to position me.
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I'll see to it that none of
your clients do this show.
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I promise you.
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Yes? MATLOCK: E-excuse me.
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I'm looking for a
Mr. David Martin?
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That's me, but if
you're from Lorimar,
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we've already called
your girl to cancel.
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No, we're not from
Lorimar. We're from Atlanta.
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Uh, we're lawyers.
I'm Ben Matlock.
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This is my associate,
Michelle Thomas.
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We represent Paul J. Bartel.
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Oh, yes. Yes, I heard
you took the case, right.
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Uh, how do you do?
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Uh, this is my
associate, Linda Lewis.
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Hello. How do you do?
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Hi. Hi.
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Oh, well, I see you're packing.
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Where are you goin'?
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New York.
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Oh, that's right.
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You're taking over
for the deceased.
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Greg was a very
dear friend of mine.
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What was he, a...?
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What, some kind
of a...? A mentor?
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Oh, much more. I owe...
I owe everything to him.
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So you'd be more than willing
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to bring his
murderer to justice.
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Of course I would.
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David, you do have
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that 12:30 at the Polo Lounge.
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Oh, right. Uh,
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well... MATLOCK:
Uh... Uh, thi...
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This will only take a moment.
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Uh, I'm just trying to find out
who knew that Greg Titleman
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would be coming into
Los Angeles that weekend.
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Uh, Mr. Bartel seems to
think that you would know.
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Why don't, uh...? Why
don't you have a seat here,
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Mr., uh, Matlock and Miss...?
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Thomas. Thomas, right.
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Um, you don't mind
if, uh, Linda sits in?
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Oh, of course not. Sure.
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Uh, my relationship
with Greg was very close,
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so naturally I knew that
he was coming into town.
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Did you know why?
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Well, he had three
meetings that I was aware of.
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One with, uh, Paul
Bartel about Mustang,
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and one with Larry Davis.
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Studio head.
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Oh.
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And what would that
have been about?
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Well, I'm afraid I
don't know exactly.
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And who was the third?
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Lane Lockletter.
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Oh. The actor.
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Used to be Denning
for the Defense.
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The lawyer who
never lost a case?
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Yeah, that's the one.
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I'm sure he was
trying to convince Greg
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to give him a new show.
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That's what Lane's meetings
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were usually about.
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Well, did you see Greg Titleman?
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No, no. He would often,
uh, fly in, have his meetings,
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and then, uh, call
me from New York
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to, uh, fill me in later.
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I had no reason to
take a meeting with Greg
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at that particular time.
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So, aside from you
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and those three, did anyone
else know he was here?
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Well, I assume his wife
knew and his secretary,
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but Greg was a
very secretive man,
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so I doubt that
anybody else knew.
254
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Well, I guess that's a start.
255
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McNEIL: Ben Matlock
started finding things out
256
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right away.
257
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Like what, Terry?
258
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Well, like out
here in Hollywood,
259
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you don't go to
lunch, you do it.
260
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And when you're doing
it, you don't just eat,
261
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you also talk business.
262
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And that's not having a
meeting, that's taking one.
263
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And the first one he took
264
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was with Lane
Lockletter, who's an actor.
265
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Let me tell you, Ben,
266
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I had a deep, abiding
affection and admiration
267
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for Greg Titleman.
268
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A brilliant programmer,
but he was only a kid.
269
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He didn't remember
that Lane Lockletter
270
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was the first star to
come over to the network.
271
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Well, that was 25 years ago.
272
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Ben, I put 'em on the map.
273
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Denning for the Defense
was in the top ten
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for six consecutive years.
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It not only anchored
Friday nights,
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it single-handedly changed
the dating habits of America.
277
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And, uh,
278
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Greg Titleman wouldn't
give you a show.
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All he ever offered
me was guest shots
280
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on other people's shows.
281
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And that's why you wanted
to have a meeting with him
282
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when he came out to Los Angeles?
283
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Ben.
284
00:15:36,169 --> 00:15:41,083
I have an idea for a
series that'll do a 45 share.
285
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A spinoff of Denning,
286
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where I marry a
younger girl lawyer
287
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and then the two of us team
up to defend innocent people.
288
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Oh, we'll call it
Mr. and Mrs. Defender.
289
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Huh? What do you think?
290
00:15:55,554 --> 00:15:57,599
Well, uh, I don't know.
291
00:15:57,623 --> 00:16:00,302
Uh, what time was your
meeting with Greg Titleman?
292
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Four o'clock. You
don't like my idea?
293
00:16:02,729 --> 00:16:04,506
Well, uh...
294
00:16:04,530 --> 00:16:06,808
Uh, so you...? You never
saw him? Did you talk with him?
295
00:16:06,832 --> 00:16:07,843
Yeah.
296
00:16:07,867 --> 00:16:10,879
We confirmed in the morning.
297
00:16:10,903 --> 00:16:12,782
Ben, let me stop you.
298
00:16:12,806 --> 00:16:14,850
I see very clearly
what you're doing.
299
00:16:14,874 --> 00:16:16,585
I did it myself
every Friday night
300
00:16:16,609 --> 00:16:17,753
for six years.
301
00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:19,955
You're establishing
if I had a motive,
302
00:16:19,979 --> 00:16:22,057
which, yes, I do.
303
00:16:22,081 --> 00:16:26,050
And, yes, I knew what
bungalow he was in.
304
00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,966
But if I may do a
critique of your work,
305
00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:33,102
Ben, i-i-it's...
306
00:16:33,126 --> 00:16:35,738
It's not a question
of right or wrong.
307
00:16:35,762 --> 00:16:39,108
It's a question of... Of style.
308
00:16:39,132 --> 00:16:40,475
Style.
309
00:16:40,499 --> 00:16:44,568
A courtroom is a theater
and you gotta lighten it up.
310
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I'm sorry.
311
00:16:49,308 --> 00:16:53,722
Like I did in Denning
for the Defense.
312
00:16:53,746 --> 00:16:56,792
You oughta try to
be more like Denning.
313
00:16:56,816 --> 00:16:58,527
Well... Oh, I'll get that.
314
00:16:58,551 --> 00:17:00,763
No. No, no.
It's... I'll take it.
315
00:17:00,787 --> 00:17:01,787
Well, thank you.
316
00:17:03,857 --> 00:17:05,355
Um..
317
00:17:07,259 --> 00:17:10,539
You know, there's a rumor
318
00:17:10,563 --> 00:17:13,576
that the real reason
319
00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,445
that you were
desperate for a new show
320
00:17:16,469 --> 00:17:18,880
is that your last wife
321
00:17:18,904 --> 00:17:20,482
took you to the cleaners.
322
00:17:20,506 --> 00:17:22,317
But that's a lie.
323
00:17:22,341 --> 00:17:24,620
And there's another rumor
324
00:17:24,644 --> 00:17:27,489
that there was a long
history of bad blood
325
00:17:27,513 --> 00:17:30,859
between you and Greg
Titleman, and with...
326
00:17:30,883 --> 00:17:32,227
With him gone,
327
00:17:32,251 --> 00:17:34,029
there are other
people at the network
328
00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:38,022
who'd be more inclined
to put you on the schedule.
329
00:17:39,358 --> 00:17:43,138
Uh, I... I enjoyed meeting you,
330
00:17:43,162 --> 00:17:44,907
and I enjoyed
hearing about Denning.
331
00:17:44,931 --> 00:17:46,842
Thanks. And I used
to enjoy Denning.
332
00:17:46,866 --> 00:17:48,477
Thank you very much.
I enjoyed our meal.
333
00:17:48,501 --> 00:17:49,477
I hope you did.
334
00:17:49,501 --> 00:17:51,780
Thank you, sir.
335
00:17:54,807 --> 00:17:58,187
Denning would have
left a much bigger tip.
336
00:17:58,211 --> 00:18:01,457
McNEIL: And while Ben Matlock
was learning how to spend
337
00:18:01,481 --> 00:18:03,024
like a Hollywood lawyer,
338
00:18:03,048 --> 00:18:06,528
Michelle had returned
to the scene of the crime.
339
00:18:06,552 --> 00:18:09,365
You see, the thing about Greg is
340
00:18:09,389 --> 00:18:11,901
that he had a point
of view about pilots.
341
00:18:11,925 --> 00:18:13,735
He understood the
kind of character
342
00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:16,705
that America wants to watch.
343
00:18:16,729 --> 00:18:18,540
That's why David wants
me to check over here
344
00:18:18,564 --> 00:18:19,941
and see if his
notes are still there.
345
00:18:19,965 --> 00:18:21,076
Oh. MAN: Hello, Miss Lewis.
346
00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:22,444
Hi, Bill.
347
00:18:22,468 --> 00:18:24,179
Well, everyone
seems to know you.
348
00:18:24,203 --> 00:18:27,215
Oh, I do breakfast meetings
here three or four times a week.
349
00:18:27,239 --> 00:18:29,251
Oh.
350
00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:30,786
There's the
bungalow right there.
351
00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:33,455
Mm-hm. Do they have
weddings here very often?
352
00:18:33,479 --> 00:18:36,225
Oh, you have to book them
six or eight months in advance.
353
00:18:36,249 --> 00:18:37,626
Oh.
354
00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:40,529
You go on ahead. I
have to go into the hotel.
355
00:18:40,553 --> 00:18:42,420
Thanks for the lift.
356
00:18:58,872 --> 00:19:03,085
Mr. Wolfson, are you in
charge of wedding receptions?
357
00:19:03,109 --> 00:19:05,921
Yes. And when is
the happy day for you?
358
00:19:05,945 --> 00:19:08,056
Oh, nothing immediate. Heh.
359
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,158
Well, that's good, because
we have nothing available
360
00:19:10,182 --> 00:19:11,360
in the near future, anyway.
361
00:19:11,384 --> 00:19:13,595
Well, actually, I'm
talking about the past.
362
00:19:13,619 --> 00:19:14,863
Like if a wedding
took place here
363
00:19:14,887 --> 00:19:16,899
the day Greg Titleman
was murdered.
364
00:19:16,923 --> 00:19:21,469
Well, yes, there was
one, but, uh, who are you?
365
00:19:21,493 --> 00:19:22,993
Oh.
366
00:19:26,265 --> 00:19:28,543
Michelle Thomas, Attorney,
Matlock and Associates.
367
00:19:28,567 --> 00:19:30,445
We're working on the case.
368
00:19:30,469 --> 00:19:32,580
I was wondering if the
wedding was filmed,
369
00:19:32,604 --> 00:19:34,771
and if it was, who filmed it.
370
00:19:36,809 --> 00:19:39,621
It was the, uh,
Stillman wedding,
371
00:19:39,645 --> 00:19:42,724
but nobody films
weddings anymore.
372
00:19:42,748 --> 00:19:43,926
It was taped.
373
00:19:43,950 --> 00:19:48,497
Oh. Yeah.
374
00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:51,767
McNEIL: Maybe they don't film
weddings, but Ben Matlock learned
375
00:19:51,791 --> 00:19:55,103
a whole lot of filming
still goes on in this town,
376
00:19:55,127 --> 00:19:57,872
because they had him
waiting over 35 minutes
377
00:19:57,896 --> 00:20:01,631
to see the studio
head, Larry Davis.
378
00:20:10,410 --> 00:20:11,420
Uh, Mr. Matlock?
379
00:20:11,444 --> 00:20:13,488
Yeah. Uh, sorry
to keep you waiting.
380
00:20:13,512 --> 00:20:15,357
Mr. Davis? No.
Mr. Davis is busy.
381
00:20:15,381 --> 00:20:17,392
I'm Jordan Sanders,
uh, head of development.
382
00:20:17,416 --> 00:20:19,856
I handle all pitches. Uh, who
did you say your agent was?
383
00:20:21,187 --> 00:20:23,098
I'm not in the
television business.
384
00:20:23,122 --> 00:20:24,499
I'm a lawyer.
385
00:20:24,523 --> 00:20:26,801
Oh. Heh. Nowadays,
Mr. Matlock, in this business,
386
00:20:26,825 --> 00:20:28,670
being an attorney means
running this business.
387
00:20:28,694 --> 00:20:32,975
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I represent Paul Bartel.
388
00:20:32,999 --> 00:20:34,342
Oh.
389
00:20:34,366 --> 00:20:35,611
I'm embarrassed.
390
00:20:35,635 --> 00:20:37,346
I have to see Mr. Davis.
391
00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:39,448
I assure you I can
speak for Mr. Davis.
392
00:20:39,472 --> 00:20:41,082
My job is to know
all of his moves
393
00:20:41,106 --> 00:20:42,184
even before he makes 'em.
394
00:20:42,208 --> 00:20:43,685
There are no secrets between us.
395
00:20:43,709 --> 00:20:45,954
Okay.
396
00:20:45,978 --> 00:20:47,656
Where was he at the
time of the murder?
397
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,124
Oh, I can't tell you that.
398
00:20:49,148 --> 00:20:50,815
Now, look.
399
00:20:53,418 --> 00:20:55,664
I know this is a matter
of utmost importance,
400
00:20:55,688 --> 00:20:57,255
but it's a little embarrassing.
401
00:20:58,824 --> 00:21:01,036
I'll have to ask you
to keep it confidential.
402
00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:03,227
I can't promise that.
403
00:21:06,031 --> 00:21:10,412
That afternoon, Mr. Davis was
with a young woman, an actress.
404
00:21:10,436 --> 00:21:13,115
Her name?
405
00:21:13,139 --> 00:21:15,039
I have to know her name.
406
00:21:16,609 --> 00:21:18,687
Kate Sawyer.
407
00:21:18,711 --> 00:21:21,690
She did that comedy series
about an American-born girl
408
00:21:21,714 --> 00:21:23,180
who was a domestic in Japan.
409
00:21:24,884 --> 00:21:26,495
Um, it didn't last very long.
410
00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:28,630
Look, she's doing features now.
411
00:21:28,654 --> 00:21:31,266
She was the one that Mr. Davis
spent that afternoon with.
412
00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:33,869
So he never saw Mr. Titleman.
413
00:21:33,893 --> 00:21:36,227
No. He was very
specific about that.
414
00:21:37,863 --> 00:21:38,863
Okay.
415
00:22:02,688 --> 00:22:04,700
Hello?
416
00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:09,860
Hello?
417
00:22:14,267 --> 00:22:15,744
Hello?
418
00:22:18,704 --> 00:22:19,881
What do you want?
419
00:22:21,441 --> 00:22:24,219
I'm Michelle Thomas. I
called a little while ago.
420
00:22:24,243 --> 00:22:25,421
I was told I could come
421
00:22:25,445 --> 00:22:27,823
and pick up the tape
of the Stillman wedding.
422
00:22:27,847 --> 00:22:30,125
Was it you I spoke to?
423
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:32,327
Yeah, but someone
just picked it up.
424
00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:35,396
What? No. That's
impossible. Who?
425
00:22:35,420 --> 00:22:38,422
I don't know. Some woman.
She just went out the back door.
426
00:23:00,746 --> 00:23:01,824
Stop!
427
00:23:01,848 --> 00:23:03,547
Stop!
428
00:23:06,885 --> 00:23:09,331
Greg Titleman? Don't
look at me. I didn't do it.
429
00:23:09,355 --> 00:23:11,500
I was in New York.
430
00:23:11,524 --> 00:23:12,967
What was he like?
431
00:23:12,991 --> 00:23:14,636
Well, you see, I didn't
see him that often.
432
00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:16,704
Bill doesn't like us
talking to the executives.
433
00:23:16,728 --> 00:23:18,440
He says it can
destroy your mind.
434
00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:20,475
You see, 'cause first,
he'll promise you spinoffs,
435
00:23:20,499 --> 00:23:21,976
then guest shots,
then you're hooked.
436
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,746
The next thing you know,
you're doing promotional spots
437
00:23:24,770 --> 00:23:26,436
for the network for free.
438
00:23:28,207 --> 00:23:30,585
Okay. So Linda Lewis
was trying to get away
439
00:23:30,609 --> 00:23:31,853
with the tape of the wedding.
440
00:23:31,877 --> 00:23:34,879
Right, but Michelle stopped her.
441
00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:41,830
What are you doing? I'm sorry.
442
00:23:41,854 --> 00:23:44,065
How did you know to come here?
443
00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:46,234
I know the people
at the Bedford Hotel.
444
00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:48,770
I remember. You do lunch
there three or four times a week,
445
00:23:48,794 --> 00:23:50,105
and they told you
I was coming here
446
00:23:50,129 --> 00:23:51,306
to get the tape of the wedding.
447
00:23:51,330 --> 00:23:52,807
That's right.
448
00:23:52,831 --> 00:23:54,109
Why don't you want me to see it?
449
00:23:54,133 --> 00:23:56,011
It's not that I don't
want you to see it.
450
00:23:56,035 --> 00:23:59,014
Well, it sure seems like
it, considering you stole it.
451
00:23:59,038 --> 00:24:01,216
It's just that I
wanted to see it first.
452
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,007
We'll both see it.
453
00:24:10,616 --> 00:24:12,761
Try to understand, Michelle.
454
00:24:12,785 --> 00:24:16,665
I started out at the network
as a page when I was 18.
455
00:24:16,689 --> 00:24:20,368
I have inched my way up, and
now I'm a director of development.
456
00:24:20,392 --> 00:24:22,370
This job is very
important to me.
457
00:24:22,394 --> 00:24:25,240
If my suspicions are correct,
458
00:24:25,264 --> 00:24:28,343
it was your boss, the man
taking Greg Titleman's job,
459
00:24:28,367 --> 00:24:30,100
who told you to steal that tape.
460
00:24:31,537 --> 00:24:33,548
I think I've said enough.
461
00:24:33,572 --> 00:24:36,318
Well, not quite.
462
00:24:36,342 --> 00:24:38,954
You haven't said why
David Martin wanted
463
00:24:38,978 --> 00:24:40,155
to see that tape.
464
00:24:40,179 --> 00:24:42,256
And I'm not going to.
465
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,258
Miss Lewis,
466
00:24:43,282 --> 00:24:47,095
my client is in
a lot of trouble.
467
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,164
His life is at stake,
468
00:24:49,188 --> 00:24:51,900
and if you continue to
stonewall for the network,
469
00:24:51,924 --> 00:24:54,002
this pretty little
career of yours
470
00:24:54,026 --> 00:24:55,771
is going right out the window.
471
00:24:55,795 --> 00:24:57,473
I promise you that.
472
00:24:57,497 --> 00:25:00,430
Now, why did he
wanna see that tape?
473
00:25:05,404 --> 00:25:09,751
David thought that Larry
Davis might be on the tape.
474
00:25:09,775 --> 00:25:11,920
He's one of our biggest
suppliers of shows,
475
00:25:11,944 --> 00:25:13,421
and he's a close
friend of David's.
476
00:25:13,445 --> 00:25:15,624
David wanted me to see if
there was anything on the tape
477
00:25:15,648 --> 00:25:17,626
that might have
incriminated Mr. Davis.
478
00:25:17,650 --> 00:25:20,795
Did he say why he thought
something might be on the tape?
479
00:25:20,819 --> 00:25:22,931
Yes.
480
00:25:22,955 --> 00:25:25,199
He said that Greg
and Larry Davis
481
00:25:25,223 --> 00:25:26,868
had a big falling-out.
482
00:25:26,892 --> 00:25:28,402
Over what?
483
00:25:28,426 --> 00:25:29,727
That he didn't know.
484
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:47,055
Hello? Ben Matlock.
485
00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:50,792
I'd like to speak
with Mr. Davis.
486
00:25:50,816 --> 00:25:53,028
I don't care how busy he is.
487
00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:57,098
You tell him I've got
to see him right away,
488
00:25:57,122 --> 00:26:00,457
and for his own good,
he'd better get unbusy.
489
00:26:02,294 --> 00:26:03,294
I'm on hold.
490
00:26:04,897 --> 00:26:07,675
I hate that. Hello?
491
00:26:07,699 --> 00:26:09,811
That's fine. I'll
be right there.
492
00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:20,188
Uh, Ben Matlock.
Mr. Davis is expecting me.
493
00:26:20,212 --> 00:26:22,757
Oh, I'm so sorry, Mr. Matlock.
494
00:26:22,781 --> 00:26:25,193
Uh, Mr. Davis got called
away unexpectedly.
495
00:26:25,217 --> 00:26:26,962
He... He said he didn't
know where to reach you.
496
00:26:26,986 --> 00:26:28,363
I don't believe this.
497
00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:31,266
Well, I-I believe Mr. Sanders
is still here. I'll buzz him.
498
00:26:31,290 --> 00:26:33,868
Mr. Matlock. So
good to see you again.
499
00:26:33,892 --> 00:26:35,504
You're not gonna
think so in a minute.
500
00:26:35,528 --> 00:26:37,172
Well, aren't we upset.
May I ask about what?
501
00:26:37,196 --> 00:26:38,574
I'm tired of getting
the runaround.
502
00:26:38,598 --> 00:26:40,542
Mr. Davis was
supposed to see me.
503
00:26:40,566 --> 00:26:42,077
Yeah, something
important came up.
504
00:26:42,101 --> 00:26:44,245
The only thing that's important
so far as I'm concerned
505
00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:46,014
is that Greg Titleman was killed
506
00:26:46,038 --> 00:26:48,250
and my client is on
trial for his murder.
507
00:26:48,274 --> 00:26:50,252
Why don't we discuss this
in my office, Mr. Matlock?
508
00:26:50,276 --> 00:26:53,654
Now, I know that Larry
Davis and Greg Titleman
509
00:26:53,678 --> 00:26:55,156
had a bad falling-out,
510
00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:59,027
and I know that David Martin
is trying to protect Larry Davis,
511
00:26:59,051 --> 00:27:00,895
and I know for
sure that Larry Davis
512
00:27:00,919 --> 00:27:02,264
is trying to avoid me.
513
00:27:02,288 --> 00:27:05,233
Now, either... Either
he talks to me now
514
00:27:05,257 --> 00:27:07,069
like a regular human being,
515
00:27:07,093 --> 00:27:09,171
or I'm gonna put
every process server
516
00:27:09,195 --> 00:27:12,441
in the whole damn state on
him and drag his can into court
517
00:27:12,465 --> 00:27:15,510
where he has to answer
my questions in public
518
00:27:15,534 --> 00:27:17,946
and the reporters
can print it in big letters
519
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:20,082
so the studio
people can read it.
520
00:27:20,106 --> 00:27:21,271
You got that?
521
00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:25,387
McNEIL: Ben found
out that sometimes
522
00:27:25,411 --> 00:27:27,688
in this town, it
pays to overact,
523
00:27:27,712 --> 00:27:29,991
because no more
than an hour later...
524
00:27:33,852 --> 00:27:34,829
Mr. Matlock.
525
00:27:34,853 --> 00:27:36,564
Yes, sir. Larry Davis.
526
00:27:36,588 --> 00:27:38,099
And I'm terribly
sorry about before,
527
00:27:38,123 --> 00:27:40,001
but it was totally unavoidable.
528
00:27:40,025 --> 00:27:41,769
I have a $25 million
production with an actress
529
00:27:41,793 --> 00:27:43,238
who wouldn't come
out of her trailer.
530
00:27:43,262 --> 00:27:44,973
Something had to be done.
531
00:27:46,365 --> 00:27:47,864
Excuse me.
532
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:52,781
Yeah?
533
00:27:53,806 --> 00:27:56,050
No, it's still in galleys.
534
00:27:56,074 --> 00:27:57,085
Make an offer on an option,
535
00:27:57,109 --> 00:28:00,143
but don't budge
on the turnaround.
536
00:28:06,151 --> 00:28:07,128
So, what'd you do?
537
00:28:07,152 --> 00:28:08,930
About what?
538
00:28:08,954 --> 00:28:10,164
The actress.
539
00:28:10,188 --> 00:28:11,466
The actress.
540
00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:13,201
The one who wouldn't
come out of her trailer.
541
00:28:13,225 --> 00:28:15,537
You know, the $25 million...
542
00:28:15,561 --> 00:28:18,239
Production. Right. I
got her a dermatologist.
543
00:28:18,263 --> 00:28:19,774
She didn't wanna admit it,
544
00:28:19,798 --> 00:28:22,276
but the reason she didn't wanna
be filmed was she had a blemish.
545
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,245
She had a what?
546
00:28:24,269 --> 00:28:26,348
A $25 million blemish.
547
00:28:26,372 --> 00:28:27,372
Oh.
548
00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:31,285
Oh, well. I'm glad
we finally got together.
549
00:28:31,309 --> 00:28:33,354
Um, could I ask you
a couple of questions?
550
00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:36,491
Why don't we order first?
551
00:28:36,515 --> 00:28:37,692
You ready, Mr. Davis?
552
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:38,860
Yes, indeed, Peter.
553
00:28:38,884 --> 00:28:40,395
A Cobb salad, no egg.
554
00:28:40,419 --> 00:28:41,963
And sir?
555
00:28:41,987 --> 00:28:44,699
I'll have that, but with egg.
556
00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:46,267
Very good.
557
00:28:46,291 --> 00:28:48,136
So no eggs?
558
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,139
Cholesterol. Don't
eat it for 100 years.
559
00:28:51,163 --> 00:28:52,374
You'll live longer.
560
00:28:52,398 --> 00:28:55,577
It's a thought.
Heh-heh. It's a thought.
561
00:28:55,601 --> 00:28:58,413
Uh, could I ask you
a personal question?
562
00:28:58,437 --> 00:29:00,114
No problem. Ask.
563
00:29:00,138 --> 00:29:03,284
I heard that you
had a falling-out
564
00:29:03,308 --> 00:29:06,688
with Greg Titleman
before he... Michael,
565
00:29:06,712 --> 00:29:07,889
good to see you.
566
00:29:07,913 --> 00:29:09,424
Larry, I thought
you'd like to know.
567
00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:12,126
Steve made the deal.
We're all very happy.
568
00:29:12,150 --> 00:29:14,929
We would be too, if you
hadn't robbed us blind.
569
00:29:14,953 --> 00:29:17,599
Me? I'd never do that to you.
570
00:29:20,059 --> 00:29:22,737
Uh, a-about th-this rumor
571
00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:24,772
that you had had a
falling-out with Greg Titleman...
572
00:29:24,796 --> 00:29:26,174
Excuse me.
573
00:29:26,198 --> 00:29:29,310
Sorry to interrupt, Larry,
but we have a major disaster.
574
00:29:29,334 --> 00:29:32,413
Dimino has caused us
to go so far over schedule
575
00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:35,072
that we either replace
him or pull the plug.
576
00:29:36,041 --> 00:29:37,118
Uh, wait... Wait a minute.
577
00:29:37,142 --> 00:29:39,420
Sorry, Mr. Matlock.
Call my secretary.
578
00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:41,711
We'll set up a meeting.
579
00:29:49,487 --> 00:29:51,499
Now... Oh, Ben.
580
00:29:51,523 --> 00:29:53,501
We've been through all
the Stillman wedding tape,
581
00:29:53,525 --> 00:29:55,770
and Larry Davis isn't on it.
582
00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:58,105
Are you sure? I was
certain he was the one.
583
00:29:58,129 --> 00:30:00,575
It's all right. I think we
got something even better.
584
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:02,043
Yeah?
585
00:30:02,067 --> 00:30:04,245
David Martin wasn't
trying to protect Larry Davis.
586
00:30:04,269 --> 00:30:07,649
He was protecting
himself. He lied. Look.
587
00:30:07,673 --> 00:30:10,018
He was at the wedding.
588
00:30:10,042 --> 00:30:11,019
That's David Martin?
589
00:30:11,043 --> 00:30:12,253
Mm-hm. The miserable little...
590
00:30:14,846 --> 00:30:16,024
Hello?
591
00:30:16,048 --> 00:30:17,992
Just a minute.
592
00:30:18,016 --> 00:30:21,829
It's for you. Jordan Sanders.
593
00:30:21,853 --> 00:30:23,320
Hello?
594
00:30:26,158 --> 00:30:27,501
David Martin did what?
595
00:30:29,161 --> 00:30:30,894
Are you sure?
596
00:30:32,998 --> 00:30:34,298
That's interesting.
597
00:30:38,237 --> 00:30:41,316
Mr. Martin, what
was your position
598
00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:45,019
at the network when
Greg Titleman died?
599
00:30:45,043 --> 00:30:49,491
Senior vice president of
series, movies and specials.
600
00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:52,427
So you were pretty far up
the executive ladder, right?
601
00:30:52,451 --> 00:30:55,229
I was second only to the
president of the network.
602
00:30:55,253 --> 00:30:57,432
And you were
likely heir to his job.
603
00:30:57,456 --> 00:31:00,435
I've already been promoted
to that job, which you know.
604
00:31:00,459 --> 00:31:01,436
Yes, I do.
605
00:31:01,460 --> 00:31:02,904
Your Honor, I don't see
606
00:31:02,928 --> 00:31:05,139
where this line of
questioning is leading.
607
00:31:05,163 --> 00:31:06,775
Mr. Martin is not on trial.
608
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:09,677
Your Honor, I'm just trying
to show that this witness
609
00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:11,513
had a strong motive himself
610
00:31:11,537 --> 00:31:13,481
and that his credibility
is questionable at best.
611
00:31:13,505 --> 00:31:14,815
Wait a damn second!
612
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:17,952
You and everybody else here
knows how I felt about Greg.
613
00:31:19,678 --> 00:31:23,191
The witness will refrain from
outbursts in my courtroom.
614
00:31:23,215 --> 00:31:25,393
I'm sorry, Your Honor,
but Greg Titleman
615
00:31:25,417 --> 00:31:26,727
was like a brother to me.
616
00:31:26,751 --> 00:31:28,496
No single person in this town
617
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,064
was more responsible
for my success.
618
00:31:30,088 --> 00:31:31,499
I loved that man.
619
00:31:31,523 --> 00:31:32,900
I certainly wouldn't harm him.
620
00:31:32,924 --> 00:31:34,635
Mr. Martin, you are here
621
00:31:34,659 --> 00:31:37,771
to answer questions
and not offer speeches.
622
00:31:37,795 --> 00:31:40,141
Proceed, Mr. Matlock.
623
00:31:40,165 --> 00:31:43,511
Thank you.
624
00:31:43,535 --> 00:31:44,912
Mr. Martin, I appreciate
625
00:31:44,936 --> 00:31:50,618
your strong feelings
for Greg Titleman, but I...
626
00:31:50,642 --> 00:31:52,687
I must ask these questions.
627
00:31:52,711 --> 00:31:55,890
Now, as a vice president,
628
00:31:55,914 --> 00:32:00,461
you were a select
member of a small group
629
00:32:00,485 --> 00:32:03,898
who decided what shows
went on the air, weren't you?
630
00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:06,501
Objection. I fail to
see the relevancy.
631
00:32:06,525 --> 00:32:07,569
Uh, Your Honor,
632
00:32:07,593 --> 00:32:10,972
uh, this will become
imminently clear
633
00:32:10,996 --> 00:32:12,707
if the court will bear with me.
634
00:32:12,731 --> 00:32:14,242
Overruled for now.
635
00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:15,276
You may answer.
636
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:17,011
Okay.
637
00:32:17,035 --> 00:32:18,546
At all of the networks,
638
00:32:18,570 --> 00:32:21,482
there is a group of men
and women who can say no,
639
00:32:21,506 --> 00:32:24,586
but only two or three who
have the power to say yes.
640
00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:25,687
I was one of them.
641
00:32:25,711 --> 00:32:27,389
And millions of
dollars are at stake
642
00:32:27,413 --> 00:32:29,624
on those yeses, right? Yes.
643
00:32:29,648 --> 00:32:31,525
But that one was for free.
644
00:32:32,651 --> 00:32:34,896
You know, you're a comic.
645
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,899
And careers hang in the
balance on these, uh...
646
00:32:37,923 --> 00:32:40,101
These scheduling
decisions, don't they?
647
00:32:40,125 --> 00:32:41,903
You could say that.
648
00:32:41,927 --> 00:32:43,338
And I understand that...
649
00:32:43,362 --> 00:32:47,408
That some shows stay
on the air five or six years
650
00:32:47,432 --> 00:32:51,479
and become worth
hundreds of millions of dollars.
651
00:32:51,503 --> 00:32:53,614
Yes, that's true.
652
00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:57,318
So I guess the people
who have shows to sell
653
00:32:57,342 --> 00:33:01,756
try to exert a certain
influence on the people
654
00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:05,126
who buy the shows
and put them on the air.
655
00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:08,329
I suppose. I've heard rumors
of such things happening,
656
00:33:08,353 --> 00:33:10,631
but I've never
actually seen it myself.
657
00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:15,436
You've never been offered
a-a vacation or given a gift
658
00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:20,008
when you knew that the purpose
was to influence your opinion?
659
00:33:20,032 --> 00:33:21,276
Nothing that I consider
660
00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:24,279
out of the ordinary
course of business, no.
661
00:33:24,303 --> 00:33:28,750
Oh, so y-you would consider
662
00:33:28,774 --> 00:33:34,155
a $100,000 loan to be in the
course of ordinary business.
663
00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:35,790
Wait a minute. What
are you talkin' about?
664
00:33:35,814 --> 00:33:37,825
I'm talking about a loan
you got from Larry Davis.
665
00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:39,560
Larry Davis is a friend of mine.
666
00:33:39,584 --> 00:33:43,063
A loan on which you have
not made one single payment.
667
00:33:43,087 --> 00:33:44,465
Let me take that back.
668
00:33:44,489 --> 00:33:47,301
You actually
paid it back in full
669
00:33:47,325 --> 00:33:51,005
because you lobbied vigorously
for two of Larry Davis' shows.
670
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:52,540
I did no such thing!
671
00:33:52,564 --> 00:33:53,741
Oh?
672
00:33:53,765 --> 00:33:56,044
But after you got the 100,000,
673
00:33:56,068 --> 00:34:00,381
isn't it true that two
of Larry Davis' shows
674
00:34:00,405 --> 00:34:01,849
went on the network schedule?
675
00:34:01,873 --> 00:34:03,484
One thing had nothing
to do with the other.
676
00:34:03,508 --> 00:34:05,352
They were both good shows.
677
00:34:05,376 --> 00:34:09,891
And isn't it true
that Greg Titleman
678
00:34:09,915 --> 00:34:11,559
found out you were on the take?
679
00:34:11,583 --> 00:34:13,216
I'm warning you.
680
00:34:14,485 --> 00:34:18,733
And I'm reminding
you this is a courtroom.
681
00:34:18,757 --> 00:34:22,236
You're not in a network
office threatening some agent
682
00:34:22,260 --> 00:34:24,205
over the telephone.
683
00:34:24,229 --> 00:34:26,874
And may I remind
you, Mr. Matlock,
684
00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:28,909
no matter how
it's done in Atlanta,
685
00:34:28,933 --> 00:34:30,645
I am the one
686
00:34:30,669 --> 00:34:32,280
who issues the
orders in this court.
687
00:34:32,304 --> 00:34:34,604
I'm sorry, Your Honor.
It got away from me.
688
00:34:36,608 --> 00:34:38,953
Isn't that the way it happened?
689
00:34:38,977 --> 00:34:41,456
Greg Titleman found
out you were on the take,
690
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,927
and he said to you he had
no choice but to let you go.
691
00:34:45,951 --> 00:34:47,262
No.
692
00:34:47,286 --> 00:34:50,231
And because Greg Titleman
was a very secretive man,
693
00:34:50,255 --> 00:34:52,534
he told no one
what you had done,
694
00:34:52,558 --> 00:34:56,270
and you knew that, and you
went to his hotel to plead with him.
695
00:34:56,294 --> 00:34:58,973
I wasn't there.
696
00:34:58,997 --> 00:35:02,944
Your Honor,
697
00:35:02,968 --> 00:35:06,147
I would like to refresh
this witness' recollection
698
00:35:06,171 --> 00:35:07,848
with a demonstration
699
00:35:07,872 --> 00:35:10,318
that the court and counsel
discussed this morning.
700
00:35:10,342 --> 00:35:12,253
Proceed.
701
00:35:12,277 --> 00:35:14,577
Ahem. This tape...
702
00:35:16,180 --> 00:35:21,028
has been identified
as Defense Exhibit G,
703
00:35:21,052 --> 00:35:24,832
and it has been stipulated
to depict the Stillman wedding
704
00:35:24,856 --> 00:35:29,470
at the Bedford Hotel
on the day of the murder.
705
00:35:29,494 --> 00:35:31,506
Now, this...
706
00:35:31,530 --> 00:35:35,810
This spot in the
tape right there,
707
00:35:35,834 --> 00:35:39,814
this picture, has been blown up
708
00:35:39,838 --> 00:35:42,450
so as we can
more clearly see it.
709
00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:47,444
And whom do we see, Mr. Martin?
710
00:35:48,746 --> 00:35:53,694
Well, this tape does
refresh your memory
711
00:35:53,718 --> 00:35:56,653
about seeing Mr. Titleman
at his hotel, doesn't it?
712
00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:01,669
All right, it's true.
713
00:36:01,693 --> 00:36:04,639
Greg found out that Larry was
714
00:36:04,663 --> 00:36:07,709
paying me off and he
said he was firing me,
715
00:36:07,733 --> 00:36:10,111
and I did go to the hotel
and I did plead with him,
716
00:36:10,135 --> 00:36:12,313
but when I left, he was alive.
717
00:36:12,337 --> 00:36:13,881
We have only your word for that.
718
00:36:13,905 --> 00:36:14,949
No.
719
00:36:14,973 --> 00:36:16,717
No, you have more
than just my word on it.
720
00:36:16,741 --> 00:36:17,918
When I left the Bedford Hotel,
721
00:36:17,942 --> 00:36:20,288
I went directly to
my attorney's home.
722
00:36:20,312 --> 00:36:21,889
And he... He's
sitting right over there.
723
00:36:21,913 --> 00:36:23,024
Howard? Howard, stand up.
724
00:36:23,048 --> 00:36:25,960
Howard Burke. Ask
him. He'll tell you.
725
00:36:25,984 --> 00:36:28,262
He called Greg at
the Bedford Hotel
726
00:36:28,286 --> 00:36:30,365
after I arrived at his house.
727
00:36:30,389 --> 00:36:32,333
And he talked with Mr. Titleman?
728
00:36:32,357 --> 00:36:33,901
Yes. Yes, he did. He...
729
00:36:33,925 --> 00:36:36,604
He asked Greg if he
would allow me to resign
730
00:36:36,628 --> 00:36:39,006
and not go public
with what I'd done,
731
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:40,764
and Greg said yes.
732
00:36:42,367 --> 00:36:43,944
And he was still alive?
733
00:36:43,968 --> 00:36:46,514
Oh, very much so.
734
00:36:46,538 --> 00:36:48,304
Well, s-swear him in.
735
00:36:49,807 --> 00:36:52,075
Swear him in.
He'll... He'll verify it.
736
00:36:57,148 --> 00:36:59,693
No, I don't think
that'll be necessary.
737
00:37:05,957 --> 00:37:07,256
No further questions.
738
00:37:17,101 --> 00:37:18,879
Well, Terry, Ben
must've been very upset
739
00:37:18,903 --> 00:37:20,748
when David Martin's
alibi checked out,
740
00:37:20,772 --> 00:37:23,284
and he knew he couldn't prove
David had killed Greg Titleman.
741
00:37:23,308 --> 00:37:25,052
Well, not just upset, worried.
742
00:37:25,076 --> 00:37:27,822
Everything pointed
back to his client again.
743
00:37:27,846 --> 00:37:29,890
Things were looking very dark.
744
00:37:32,818 --> 00:37:35,563
Oh, Ben, I'm glad you came by.
- Yeah.
745
00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:37,665
This is Mrs. Ida Stillman,
the mother of the groom.
746
00:37:37,689 --> 00:37:39,500
Hello, Ms. Stillman.
How do you do?
747
00:37:39,524 --> 00:37:41,803
We've been going over
the videotape of the wedding
748
00:37:41,827 --> 00:37:43,671
to see if she can find someone
749
00:37:43,695 --> 00:37:46,274
she doesn't recognize
besides David Martin.
750
00:37:46,298 --> 00:37:47,741
Uh-huh. Anybody
who didn't belong.
751
00:37:47,765 --> 00:37:49,277
Yeah, well, did you
find anything yet?
752
00:37:49,301 --> 00:37:51,212
Not yet. Not yet.
753
00:37:52,237 --> 00:37:53,447
Ben? Hm?
754
00:37:53,471 --> 00:37:55,749
I rechecked Lane
Lockletter's alibi.
755
00:37:55,773 --> 00:37:56,917
It's solid.
756
00:37:56,941 --> 00:37:58,752
One of the coaches of
the Pepperdine track team
757
00:37:58,776 --> 00:38:00,988
was out there doing
laps with him that day.
758
00:38:01,012 --> 00:38:03,491
Oh. Kind of a shame, isn't it?
759
00:38:03,515 --> 00:38:05,326
Been simple if it was him.
760
00:38:06,384 --> 00:38:08,028
So,
761
00:38:08,052 --> 00:38:11,465
Ms. Stillman, did your
boy find himself a nice girl?
762
00:38:11,489 --> 00:38:12,900
Oh, yes.
763
00:38:12,924 --> 00:38:15,236
He couldn't have done
better if I'd chosen her myself.
764
00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:16,704
Good, good.
765
00:38:16,728 --> 00:38:19,106
I think it's nice when
the in-laws get along.
766
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:20,574
Oh, yes. MATLOCK:
I always got along
767
00:38:20,598 --> 00:38:21,842
with my mother-in-law.
768
00:38:21,866 --> 00:38:23,211
We used to do things together,
769
00:38:23,235 --> 00:38:24,445
go to ball games, hunt.
770
00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:25,946
She was a great shot.
771
00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:27,882
Wait a minute.
Stop it right there.
772
00:38:27,906 --> 00:38:29,317
What is it?
773
00:38:29,341 --> 00:38:30,818
No. Who is it?
774
00:38:30,842 --> 00:38:32,642
Can you back that up?
775
00:38:36,381 --> 00:38:39,060
Hold it. Look right there.
776
00:38:40,785 --> 00:38:43,297
All right.
777
00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:48,469
Uh, Mr. Davis,
778
00:38:48,493 --> 00:38:53,273
you are the top man
at Westland Studios.
779
00:38:53,297 --> 00:38:54,575
When I last checked. Ha-ha.
780
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:56,244
You know, uneasy lies the crown.
781
00:38:58,370 --> 00:38:59,713
Now, it's... It's
common knowledge
782
00:38:59,737 --> 00:39:04,552
that, uh, you were friends
with Greg Titleman for years,
783
00:39:04,576 --> 00:39:07,655
e-even going back to the
days when you were an actor.
784
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:10,892
Please, please. I'll have to
touch up my 8-by-10 glossies.
785
00:39:13,084 --> 00:39:15,496
Yes, I knew Greg,
786
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,899
and we did business
together for years.
787
00:39:17,923 --> 00:39:19,500
And you knew that
he had come into town
788
00:39:19,524 --> 00:39:21,102
for meetings that weekend.
789
00:39:21,126 --> 00:39:22,736
I was one of them, yes.
790
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,871
But you never saw him.
791
00:39:23,895 --> 00:39:24,872
That's right.
792
00:39:24,896 --> 00:39:27,407
You never even
got over to his hotel.
793
00:39:27,431 --> 00:39:28,476
That's correct.
794
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:31,512
According to,
uh, your assistant,
795
00:39:31,536 --> 00:39:34,014
Mr. Jordan Sanders,
796
00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:36,451
you spent most of
that day with a, uh...
797
00:39:36,475 --> 00:39:39,087
A young actress, a Kate Sawyer.
798
00:39:40,112 --> 00:39:41,789
Why drag her into it?
799
00:39:41,813 --> 00:39:43,090
I didn't do the dragging.
800
00:39:43,114 --> 00:39:44,759
Just answer the question.
801
00:39:44,783 --> 00:39:47,795
Yes, I was with that young lady.
802
00:39:47,819 --> 00:39:48,929
Can, uh...?
803
00:39:48,953 --> 00:39:50,898
Can anyone confirm
that you were with her
804
00:39:50,922 --> 00:39:52,466
at the time of the murder?
805
00:39:52,490 --> 00:39:55,169
Miss Sawyer herself, but she's
out of the country right now.
806
00:39:55,193 --> 00:39:57,371
What if someone called
her on the telephone
807
00:39:57,395 --> 00:40:01,408
at location in East Africa,
808
00:40:01,432 --> 00:40:05,012
and she said that
she was not with you
809
00:40:05,036 --> 00:40:06,046
the day of the murder?
810
00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:07,615
Well, if she did,
she'd be lying.
811
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:08,782
I was with her.
812
00:40:08,806 --> 00:40:11,452
She wasn't even in Los
Angeles that weekend.
813
00:40:11,476 --> 00:40:13,854
She was in Acapulco
with another fella.
814
00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:18,426
Mr. Matlock, I think
Lane Lockletter
815
00:40:18,450 --> 00:40:19,860
has been giving you lessons.
816
00:40:19,884 --> 00:40:21,862
If that were the truth,
817
00:40:21,886 --> 00:40:23,564
you'd have Kate
Sawyer here in court,
818
00:40:23,588 --> 00:40:25,800
and I don't see her today,
819
00:40:25,824 --> 00:40:28,068
so you can try and
trick me all you want,
820
00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:29,704
but I know I'm
telling the truth.
821
00:40:29,728 --> 00:40:31,272
Yeah.
822
00:40:31,296 --> 00:40:34,442
Well, you're right.
823
00:40:34,466 --> 00:40:37,878
Uh, I did try to trick you,
824
00:40:37,902 --> 00:40:41,048
and if that were true
825
00:40:41,072 --> 00:40:43,216
and she were here today,
826
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:45,820
I would have her
in the courtroom.
827
00:40:48,647 --> 00:40:50,112
That is Kate Sawyer, isn't it?
828
00:40:51,383 --> 00:40:52,726
Now, I won't tell you
829
00:40:52,750 --> 00:40:56,897
it didn't take some doing,
but that is Kate Sawyer.
830
00:40:56,921 --> 00:40:59,099
Shall I put her on
the stand? All right.
831
00:40:59,123 --> 00:41:01,769
So I wasn't with her that day,
but that doesn't prove anything.
832
00:41:01,793 --> 00:41:03,126
No, but it's a start. Thank you.
833
00:41:05,396 --> 00:41:07,174
You remember the other day
834
00:41:07,198 --> 00:41:08,609
when we ordered lunch? - Yes.
835
00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:10,277
We didn't get a chance to eat.
836
00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:11,345
I had to leave.
837
00:41:11,369 --> 00:41:13,514
Yeah, you had
multimillion-dollar problems.
838
00:41:13,538 --> 00:41:16,383
Uh, pull the plug
on one picture,
839
00:41:16,407 --> 00:41:17,985
another picture had a pimple,
840
00:41:18,009 --> 00:41:19,787
but we did order.
841
00:41:19,811 --> 00:41:22,056
You ordered Cobb salad, right?
842
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,090
That's right.
843
00:41:23,114 --> 00:41:25,359
And no egg. I'm allergic.
844
00:41:25,383 --> 00:41:28,162
Is that a typical order for you?
845
00:41:28,186 --> 00:41:30,731
Uh, frequently,
that's what I have.
846
00:41:30,755 --> 00:41:32,967
Uh, Your Honor,
uh, at this time,
847
00:41:32,991 --> 00:41:38,906
I'd like to enter into
evidence Defense Exhibit H.
848
00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:42,143
This is a computerized
luncheon order
849
00:41:42,167 --> 00:41:45,980
taken from Greg Titleman's
room the day of the murder.
850
00:41:46,004 --> 00:41:48,282
Cobb salad, no egg.
What do you think?
851
00:41:48,306 --> 00:41:50,150
I think, so what?
852
00:41:50,174 --> 00:41:51,919
All these little things add up.
853
00:41:51,943 --> 00:41:55,822
When Jordan Sanders called me...
854
00:41:55,846 --> 00:41:57,725
You didn't know that, did you?
855
00:41:57,749 --> 00:41:59,660
When he called me to tell me
856
00:41:59,684 --> 00:42:02,596
about the loan you
made to David Martin,
857
00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:06,600
I missed the point. I... I...
858
00:42:06,624 --> 00:42:10,170
I didn't realize right off
859
00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:13,240
that he was gunning for you.
860
00:42:13,264 --> 00:42:16,844
But a man as smart
as Greg Titleman
861
00:42:16,868 --> 00:42:20,080
had to get the point right away.
862
00:42:20,104 --> 00:42:23,450
He was a lot of things
to a lot of people,
863
00:42:23,474 --> 00:42:26,654
but above all, he
was an ethical man,
864
00:42:26,678 --> 00:42:31,592
and when he found
out about this money,
865
00:42:31,616 --> 00:42:35,362
you knew it was all over.
866
00:42:35,386 --> 00:42:38,732
He would never buy
another show from you.
867
00:42:38,756 --> 00:42:40,768
You'd lose your
power, your authority.
868
00:42:40,792 --> 00:42:42,069
That's the end of it.
869
00:42:42,093 --> 00:42:45,973
You couldn't handle that,
so you killed Greg Titleman.
870
00:42:45,997 --> 00:42:48,242
That isn't the truth.
871
00:42:48,266 --> 00:42:52,680
Your Honor, uh, at this time,
I'd like the court's permission
872
00:42:52,704 --> 00:42:57,918
to replay a part of
Defense Exhibit G.
873
00:42:57,942 --> 00:43:00,153
Objection. We've
already seen that tape.
874
00:43:00,177 --> 00:43:01,789
We know Davis isn't on it.
875
00:43:01,813 --> 00:43:04,058
This is a new witness,
I have that right,
876
00:43:04,082 --> 00:43:06,426
and we may have
missed something.
877
00:43:06,450 --> 00:43:08,963
Overruled. I'll permit it.
878
00:43:08,987 --> 00:43:11,331
Thank you.
879
00:43:11,355 --> 00:43:13,434
Yeah, the tape was shot
880
00:43:13,458 --> 00:43:16,937
at such an angle
that the bungalows
881
00:43:16,961 --> 00:43:18,939
are not in the background,
882
00:43:18,963 --> 00:43:21,575
just the scenic woodsy
part, as you can see.
883
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:25,545
But look, look, look right here.
884
00:43:25,569 --> 00:43:27,548
There. There's a fellow
885
00:43:27,572 --> 00:43:31,852
with a little Super
8 movie camera.
886
00:43:31,876 --> 00:43:34,088
He shot his own
version of the wedding.
887
00:43:34,112 --> 00:43:35,489
He got everything in,
888
00:43:35,513 --> 00:43:39,782
the kitchen, the parking
lot and the bungalows.
889
00:43:41,118 --> 00:43:44,654
So now, let's see
what's on the film.
890
00:43:47,492 --> 00:43:50,537
There you go, buddy.
891
00:43:50,561 --> 00:43:52,773
There's some micro...
892
00:43:52,797 --> 00:43:55,075
The screen. We got that.
893
00:43:55,099 --> 00:43:57,043
Okay. Can we just, uh...?
894
00:43:57,067 --> 00:43:58,945
Okay.
895
00:43:58,969 --> 00:43:59,980
There.
896
00:44:00,004 --> 00:44:02,149
Okay, now here it's in focus.
897
00:44:02,173 --> 00:44:04,985
There's the mother
and... That there...
898
00:44:05,009 --> 00:44:08,055
There's my client
Paul Bartel on his way
899
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:10,023
to Greg Titleman's bungalow.
900
00:44:10,047 --> 00:44:11,892
And here's more
pictures of the wedding.
901
00:44:11,916 --> 00:44:15,596
The bride, of course, and...
902
00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:17,731
A picture of the cake.
903
00:44:17,755 --> 00:44:20,034
And there is Mr. Bartel
904
00:44:20,058 --> 00:44:25,339
leaving after he
witnessed the victim's body.
905
00:44:25,363 --> 00:44:26,840
Your Honor, what
does this prove?
906
00:44:26,864 --> 00:44:28,909
We already know that
he entered and he left.
907
00:44:28,933 --> 00:44:30,310
Now, wait, wait, wait, wait.
908
00:44:30,334 --> 00:44:34,048
Now, look at this, look at this,
look at this. Look. See? There.
909
00:44:34,072 --> 00:44:36,951
There. Look at that.
That's you, Mr. Davis.
910
00:44:36,975 --> 00:44:39,352
I took the liberty of having
911
00:44:39,376 --> 00:44:41,088
this little piece
of film blown up
912
00:44:41,112 --> 00:44:44,046
so we could prove that was you.
913
00:44:52,256 --> 00:44:55,636
You had already
murdered Mr. Titleman
914
00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:58,506
by the time my client
arrived at his bungalow.
915
00:44:58,530 --> 00:45:02,576
You hid, waited
for him to leave,
916
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,313
and then you decided to
take advantage of his presence
917
00:45:06,337 --> 00:45:08,816
and frame him for the murder
918
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,007
by planting the
knife in his car.
919
00:45:12,677 --> 00:45:15,823
I guess you figured
what the hell.
920
00:45:15,847 --> 00:45:20,149
Get another competitor out
of the way at the same time.
921
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,565
Kill two birds with
one knife, so to speak.
922
00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:31,905
No further questions.
923
00:45:37,301 --> 00:45:39,113
So to bring us up-to-date,
924
00:45:39,137 --> 00:45:42,116
concluding arguments
were made this afternoon,
925
00:45:42,140 --> 00:45:44,985
and now everyone's
waiting for the jury.
926
00:45:45,009 --> 00:45:47,221
I spoke with Ben
Matlock earlier today,
927
00:45:47,245 --> 00:45:49,089
and I asked him how did he feel.
928
00:45:49,113 --> 00:45:50,924
He said, and I quote,
929
00:45:50,948 --> 00:45:54,894
"Same as I always do when
waiting for a jury of 12 people.
930
00:45:54,918 --> 00:45:57,130
Nervous because you never know."
931
00:45:57,154 --> 00:45:59,366
Heh-heh. Well, Terry,
we can appreciate that,
932
00:45:59,390 --> 00:46:01,524
having waited for
overnight ratings.
933
00:46:07,831 --> 00:46:10,065
Has the jury reached a verdict?
934
00:46:12,203 --> 00:46:14,114
We have, Your Honor.
935
00:46:14,138 --> 00:46:16,984
We find the defendant,
Paul J. Bartel,
936
00:46:17,008 --> 00:46:18,552
not guilty. JUDGE: Thank you,
937
00:46:18,576 --> 00:46:20,955
ladies and
gentlemen of the jury.
938
00:46:20,979 --> 00:46:22,422
Court is adjourned.
939
00:46:22,446 --> 00:46:25,092
Well, I don't know what to say.
940
00:46:25,116 --> 00:46:26,727
I had a speech
prepared, but I don't think
941
00:46:26,751 --> 00:46:28,391
"I'd like to thank the
Academy" covers it.
942
00:46:29,453 --> 00:46:31,093
I'll tell you the truth.
I enjoyed myself.
943
00:46:32,524 --> 00:46:36,570
Well... Well, why don't we, uh,
944
00:46:36,594 --> 00:46:39,072
take lunch or, you know,
do a meeting, or is that...?
945
00:46:39,096 --> 00:46:42,843
Or is that do a
meeting and take lunch?
946
00:46:42,867 --> 00:46:44,211
Either one.
947
00:46:44,235 --> 00:46:45,212
Let's do both. Okay.
948
00:46:45,236 --> 00:46:46,236
Okay.
949
00:46:50,875 --> 00:46:53,454
And that concludes
this evening's segment
950
00:46:53,478 --> 00:46:55,055
of Hollywood Today.
951
00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:56,056
Greg really cared
952
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,058
about the quality of his shows,
953
00:46:58,082 --> 00:46:59,426
and he had a temper.
954
00:46:59,450 --> 00:47:01,996
I remember one time he
was so upset with a script,
955
00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:04,865
he started pounding it
on the wall, tearing it up,
956
00:47:04,889 --> 00:47:08,135
yelling, "An Alien Life
Form wouldn't say that."
957
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:09,469
So I calmly asked him,
958
00:47:09,493 --> 00:47:12,907
"Greg, do you wanna
help us rewrite this script,
959
00:47:12,931 --> 00:47:14,775
"or would you rather
take it back to your office
960
00:47:14,799 --> 00:47:17,111
and slap it around a little?"
961
00:47:17,135 --> 00:47:19,446
He didn't laugh.
9999
00:00:0,500 --> 00:00:2,00
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